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side surfing with a stick

Postby gnarlydog » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:29 pm

James Manke side surfing for a very loooong time on the Skooks wave: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_qwW-evbiI
Yeah, I hear you: those sticks are only good for showing off :-)
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Re: side surfing with a stick

Postby Mark Sundin » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:54 pm

Oh please, the crusade continues…
This is a clever exhibition of using the angle of the deck against the wave in order to hold a broach. It has absolutely nothing to do with what he is holding in his hands, everything to do with what is going on under his deck. Skilful, yes. A breathtaking example of the merits of a GP in the surf, no.
I love watching this guy paddle, he's brave & technically very sound. I wonder if he is also a GP evangelist, or just gets on with enjoying his paddling? I reckon I know which is more likely...
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Re: side surfing with a stick

Postby digital_steve » Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:26 pm

Is going straight now out of fashion?

... i'm missing something

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Re: side surfing with a stick

Postby Mark Sundin » Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:53 pm

That's drifitng dangerously close to Rudder Pride turf Steve, tread lightly….

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Re: side surfing with a stick

Postby digital_steve » Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:39 pm

Rudders, sticks, sideways... It's all confusing.
Tools for a job I say!

I'm still confused about the sideways shenanigans; surely surfing that would be way more fun than a broach session... Blatant product advertising aside.

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Re: side surfing with a stick

Postby AndyM » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:40 pm

I'm not a 'teach', and don't know what their priority is, but I would maintain that learning a good broach in various different waters is a good thing to learn early on (soon after a roll) for ocean paddlers (you've got more of them in your waters than we do in the US - here there are more 'flatwater' paddlers).

On my 1st paddle up the east coast of Aus., I'd never paddled ocean before. I had a good roll, but no experience in surf.
Needless to say, I got 'beat up' quite a bit between Syd and Brisbane (& a bit north of that). I was 'forced' to learn a good broach in the first couple of weeks of paddling.
(After that 1st trip, I relocated to the west coast (US) and 'learned' the surf - in addition to defence (roll, broach) learned offence (surfing, other techniques) )

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Re: side surfing with a stick

Postby Mark Sundin » Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:34 am

Hey Andy, nice to hear from you. That is the definition of learning on the go!
And yeah, the video shows some lovely skills, all of which are worth praticing safely.
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Re: side surfing with a stick

Postby mick M » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:12 am

Mark Sundin wrote:That's drifitng dangerously close to Rudder Pride turf Steve, tread lightly….

I know a man who can fix up you under ruddered kayak for you and might give you a fleat discount to

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Re: side surfing with a stick

Postby mushinaiki » Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:16 am

There also has to be a lot said for the hull of the boat... Delphin I think. Apparently you could surf in one of those things using a paddle pop stick as a paddle.....

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Re: side surfing with a stick

Postby gnarlydog » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:00 pm

by digital_steve » Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:39 pm
Blatant product advertising aside

maybe
or letting people know that not all GPs can take that sort of beating
heard of a couple of imported paddles snapping like pretzels in similar conditions...
just saying

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Re: side surfing with a stick

Postby malaitony » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:28 pm

digital_steve wrote:
I'm still confused about the sideways shenanigans; surely surfing that would be way more fun than a broach session... Blatant product advertising aside.


Side surfing is also great fun, it's good to mix it up a bit of forwards a bit of sideways.
This pic I went sideways for about 10m in my Greenland T with a laminated Cedar stick.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/80047858@N03/8095839647

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Re: side surfing with a stick

Postby Mark Sundin » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:46 pm

Careful Tony, if it's not one of the paddles Gnarly promotes it will definitely snap like a pretzel.

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Re: side surfing with a stick

Postby Jmuzz » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:09 pm

Wouldnt a pretzel be more inclined to just sort of go all soggy in the surf rather than snap? :ugeek:

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Re: side surfing with a stick

Postby gnarlydog » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:10 pm

GnarlyDog News always welcomes submissions of products to be tested/reviewed
and with a bit of luck might even produce a short video for others to view

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Re: side surfing with a stick

Postby Mark Sundin » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:42 pm

"Wouldnt a pretzel be more inclined to just sort of go all soggy in the surf rather than snap?"
I think all the other paddles, except the ones Gnarly promotes, are a definite risk of going soggy and bending in two. Caveat emptor, nothing in the warranty covers pretzel-like characteristics.

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Re: side surfing with a stick

Postby fer » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:14 pm

Another shot of the same place but with other paddlers. Look at the guy at 1.20. The wave looks impressive but if the hull is the right one for the job you don't need the paddle at all... well almost
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItuwrdjJwBw

Research the 'Honey badger' before watching this video :-)

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Re: side surfing with a stick

Postby digital_steve » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:50 pm

gnarlydog wrote:
by digital_steve » Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:39 pm
Blatant product advertising aside

maybe
or letting people know that not all GPs can take that sort of beating
heard of a couple of imported paddles snapping like pretzels in similar conditions...
just saying


Yeah those NLP's are bombproof... Except the one I had that flexed at the joins and felt like a latex spatula on the water. I couldn't get rid of it quick enough. The demo I used didn't flex, but it was cracked at the joins.
Must be one of those blue-moon occurrences... Like leaking valley hatches.

When you let em know, can you let em know you're one of that brands reps too? Commercial interest and all that.

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Re: side surfing with a stick

Postby haresfur » Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:07 pm

I think the point is that he wasn't going *anywhere* until he flipped to get washed out.

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Re: side surfing with a stick

Postby gnarlydog » Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:05 pm

Yeah those NLP's are bombproof...

mine have proven to NOT be bomproof
but certainly stronger than some timber ones
Steve, how was customer service with your cracked/flexible paddle?

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Re: side surfing with a stick

Postby digital_steve » Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:25 pm

gnarlydog wrote:
Yeah those NLP's are bombproof...

mine have proven to NOT be bomproof
but certainly stronger than some timber ones
Steve, how was customer service with your cracked/flexible paddle?


Tom was great.
I'd rather one of his paddles, the NLP was shit.

Avoided the whole commercial interest declaration thing nicely there eh mate?


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